Press Briefing

Press Briefing of Presidential Spokesperson and Chief Presidential Legal Counsel Secretary Salvador S. Panelo with PCOO Secretary Martin Andanar

Event Press Briefing
Location Press Briefing Room, New Executive Bldg., Malacanang

USEC. ROCKY IGNACIO: Good noon, MPC; let’s now have Chief Presidential Legal Counsel and Presidential Spokesperson Salvador Panelo.

SEC. PANELO: Good afternoon, MPC members. Secretary Martin Andanar will be joining us shortly.

Let me make some opening statements. The Office of the President, the President himself has received information, intelligence information that has been validated and appears to show that there is a deliberate attempt to discredit this administration, as well as to boost the candidacies of the opposition’s senatorial candidates and it appears that there are certain groups who are working together to achieve this goal.

This group appears to be the Liberal Party – some personalities identified as advocates or very active in social media dishing out anti-Duterte statements and sentiments, and validated to be allied with the Liberal Party; also working together with groups indicated in the matrix presented to you the other week. That’s it.

MARICEL HALILI/TV5: Hi sir, good morning. Sir, you mentioned na related din siya doon sa matrix presented the other week – meaning, related siya kay Bikoy.


MARICEL HALILI/TV5: But kanina sir, sa press conference ni Senator Tito Sotto sinasabi niya na itong certain Bikoy na ‘to is the same person na nag-a-accuse kay former President Noynoy Aquino to be involved in drugs. So, paano natin tatahiin iyon if he’s also—if he was also accusing Noynoy Aquino?

SEC. PANELO: What appears from the information received by the President is that the one he presented previously against PNoy and other personalities would be coming from the same group antagonistic with the same members of the group. Meaning to say, it’s coming from the same sector. You know, in a group it doesn’t mean that all of you are in consonance with each other, there will be some rebels there and then doing their thing.

What is important is it appears that—I will show you some diagrams received, handed to me by the Office of the President.

The other group by the way is Magdalo.

Sec. Martin, please come over… The ‘John Lloyd’ of Malacañang is here. [laughs]

MARICEL HALILI/TV5: Sir, just a clarification. You mentioned na ‘yung mga rebels doon sa loob ng Liberal Party iyong possible people behind sa paninira—

SEC. PANELO: Iyong nauna. Iyong nauna, baka sila-sila rin iyon. Iyong mga kontra kay PNoy, kontra kay De Lima… the same group.

Teka muna. But what is important—huwag muna tayong pumunta roon, kasi ang importante itong lumalabas ngayon… what is important now is it appears from this diagram that the Liberal Party, the Magdalo and the other the groups indicated in the matrix are working hand-in-hand.

Why do we say this? The intelligence information shows that some of them, if not all of them, are using the same office – a four square meter office. What do you call this? Linear-something, Makati. And personalities like Bong Banal, Kokoy Dayao and Rodel Jayme – they are all known to be advocates of the Liberal Party. And then, even their e-mail address appears to be—that their e-mail are the one sharing this video of Bikoy. ‘Yung mga e-mail nila, ibig sabihin the same people are sharing the same video of Bikoy.

Alright. If you will look at this, this is the development: On April 2nd, you recall that ‘Ang Totoong Narcolist Episode’ first surfaced online, on Metro Balita and it pointed to Paolo Duterte being the first major principal of the drug syndicate. And then three days later on April 5, Senator Antonio Trillanes released a statement on his official Facebook page commending the creator of the ‘Ang Totoong Narcolist’ video and commented that he’s looking forward to the next episode.

And then on the same date, a column by Ellen Tordesillas entitled “OPINION: Battle of Narco List” was published on ABS-CBN website; and accordingly to, Tordesillas commented that the videos looked professionally done.

Now on April 7, two days after, ‘Ang Totoong Narcolist Episode Number 2’ surfaced and identified this time the daughter of the President to be the second major principal.

And then the day after, April 8, 2019, the video of ‘Ang Totoong Narcolist Episode 3’ identified former SAP Christopher Lawrence “Bong” Go – who is now a candidate for the Senate – to be the major principal.

And then four days after, April 12, 2019, the same video ‘Ang Totoong Narcolist Episode 3’ identified the son-in-law of the President, Manases Carpio – the spouse of the present Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte – as the last major principal of the drug syndicate.

Then on April 22nd, ang totoong narco-list 5, number 5 episode was released and Bikoy revealed the task organization of the drug syndicate and identified personalities comprising the Bicol quadrangle group to include the location of its based operation identified as Misibis Bay Resort located in Cagraray Island, Albay.

Next one. Now, you will notice the one encircled with red ink is the logo of the Rural Bank. In other words, the video presented the logo of the Rural Bank and presented some accounts, bank accounts. The purpose of course is to make it appear that it’s an authentic document, but it appears now that the logo was just placed there, copy paste kumbaga. And the Rural Bank has already issued a statement disclaiming and it has made a statement that no such account appears in the record. That was made on April 23, the Rural Bank of Guinobatan, Albay released its official statement denying the company’s involvement in the fund transaction, a personality identified in the video.

And also, the Albay Luxury Resort Hotel Management denies link – it was also shown in the video that supposed to be the place being used as the headquarters of the quadrangle group. And before that, you remember that Bong Go showed his back to dispute the allegation in the video that he has a tattoo in his back – the dragon sign. In fact he did it twice. Disputing again the allegation made in the video.

Now, there has been an analysis made and it appears now that there is multi-noble relationships of these different vectors from Ellen Tordesillas particularly on her online activities. The activities revealed a very active collaboration between the groups of Edwin Lacierda, who is identified with the Liberal Party; Kokoy Dayao, Joma Sison, Antonio Trillanes, Rodel Jayme, Bong Banal, Hamad Fontejos and other Liberal Party groups and supporters.

Now, there has been analysis on the voice. You recall that in that—ang totoong narco-list, there was a narrator, may narrator doon eh, before the voice of that Bikoy. And initial voice recognition through oral spectral process which conducted based on the known and unknown voices of the different targets to harmonize the fundamental auditory frequencies of the following suspected personalities, namely Bong Banal and Rodel Jayme.

It appears now in that video that it was Bong Banal who was the narrator. And Bong Banal is supposed to be kind of expert in – basta tungkol sa mga IT, and a known advocate of the Liberal Party.

Now, the domain registrant of identified as the first website to initially circulate the YouTube video entitled, ang totoong narco-list on two separate articles, dated April 2, 2019, directly affiliated with the Liberal Party, as he was identified as the administrator of significant LP-leaning Facebook pages, significantly the Aquino legacy.

Also, he administered the hotline propaganda meetings of the LP during the 2016 presidential elections. You will see in that video that—can you put back the other? Ibalik mo nga doon sa—you will noticed that this person who was facing charges now, what’s his name na nga, Rodel Jayme is seen with a photograph with the VP Leni together with their standard shirts. And then next slides shows the face of Bong Banal, the narrator of the video and he is an administrator, member of significant anti-Duterte and LP-leaning Facebook groups, pages actively circulating propaganda with the different social media platforms alongside this Jayme Rodel: artist and also he is a photojournalist identified providing visual representations and images for different black propagandas, used by Rappler. He actively initiated protest regarding the ousting of former Chief Justice Maria Lourdes Sereno.

Now, there was an analysis of the voices and as I said earlier, it appears that the narrator in the Bikoy video is Bong Banal. Their voices are the same. The said recording voice was found to have similar pitch, spectral frequency with Bong Banal. Next—kilala ninyo ba si Bong Banal? Kilala ninyo ba iyon?

Now, we have the photo of Pontejos who is a former Navy officer and a member of the Magdalo group. Rodel Jayme shown in the photo is connected with [Two Kit?] Incorporated as a freelance programmer and he is a well-known supporter of the Liberal Party and who was found to be the web administrator of Metro Balita when the Ang Totoong Narcolist first surfaced. Metro Balita is known to be promoting Otso Diretso candidates on its Facebook page.

That is the diagram which we have also here. This is another diagram where you will … it’s seen that the links between the National Union of Journalists, Alejano, Hilbay, the Liberal Party, Rodel Jayme, Trillanes, the Rappler, the Vera Files, Ellen Tordesillas.

In other words, it is obvious that these groups have linked together to discredit the Duterte administration and to boost the candidacies of the Otso Diretso senatorial candidates.

Now, after the release of the matrix linkages between Bikoy and Ellen Tordesillas to the public, the website – look at this, because if they are not hiding anything – the website of Metro Balita was permanently shut down by its administrator. Likewise, most recent posts of Metro Balita Facebook page pertaining to Bikoy videos were immediately deleted by the administrator.

That’s another personality shown by the diagram identified by Rodel Jayme as the client who requested him to create the Metro Balita website. And who is this woman, identified as Maru Nguyen or Maru Xie and Maria Kristina Elvira – in other words, aliases; An ardent supporter of the Liberal Party and Otso candidates and administrator of Freedom WallPH or Philippines Facebook page.

And then we have the photograph of Filmore Rull who is a member of the PMA Class of 2001. He is a member of the Samahang Magdalo, and currently serves as security officer of Senator Antonio Trillanes who is the alleged facilitator for Jayme’s safety after the Totoong Narcolist videos became controversial.

And then here comes Peter Joemel Advincula who identifies himself as Bikoy. He made a public appearance at the Integrated Bar of the Philippines the other day, May 6. He claims to be the Bikoy in the Ang Totoong Narcolist. He is formerly most wanted criminal in Naga City and convicted various crimes such as estafa, illegal recruitment and theft resulting to his imprisonment of six years.

Now, it appears that the voice of Bikoy in the video is not the same as the voice of the one who presents himself as Bikoy or Advincula. In other words, if you listen, you will notice that the accent of the Bikoy in the video has an Ilocano accent, while Bikoy who represents himself as Peter Advincula has a Bicolano accent, because he is a Bicolano from Sorsogon. So it could be that—[VOICE RECORDING]

Ulitin natin, ulitin natin iyong voice ni ano, nung isang Bikoy, iyong original Bikoy, iyong naka-hood. [VOICE RECORDING] In other words, it could be that this Bikoy who presents himself to be Bikoy was there while the other Bikoy was the one presenting himself as Bikoy in the video.

Now, we have another personality, Jerry Mae Maghinay who is the registered owner Now You Know website. She is responsible for the uploading of videos of Eduardo Acierto on 25 March, 7 April and May 5, 2019.

This is the diagram where Jerry Mae Ayuman Mahinay is shown and her connections like to the Yellow Boat of Hope Foundation. You will notice, the address is The Linear, Makati. That’s what I was telling you about, ganoon din itong Splice Business Solution – Linear, Makati rin. Pareho ng Be A Giver – Linear, Makati. The Yellow Ribbon Movement, e-mail address niya is These are the personalities ‘no – Bam Aquino, Margarita Juico, Antonio Trillanes, Mar Roxas—who’s this? Acierto. In other words, bakit naman pare-pareho ang opisina nila eh when that was investigated, it’s only 40 square meter room. In other words, it’s impossible na may mga cubicle doon, tapos itong mga ito nag-o-opisina doon. Iisa lang ang ginagamit talaga nila. Next slide.

O, ito na ‘yung mga kone-koneksiyon nila. So anyway, i-shortcut na natin – ‘yun ang pinaka-ano doon, pinaka-punto. So any question?

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Hi, sir. So ang ibig ninyo sabihin itong si Advincula eh posibleng pakawala para guluhin iyong ginagawang imbestigasyon ng NBI at ng PNP na tumutumbok doon sa sinasabi ninyong mga personalities? Parang panggulo siya, sinadya siyang pakawalan para i-preempt iyong investigation result—para magulo, sir kasi ano eh—

SEC. PANELO: Anong—imbestigasyon ng ano?

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Para guluhin iyong investigation na ginagawa ng administration o ng gobyerno doon sa totoong Bikoy.


ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Kasi ‘di ba, wala pa namang nag-aano eh, wala pa namang lumulutang dito—

SEC. PANELO: Not necessarily, parang lumalabas kasama siya doon. Kasi iyong lumalabas iyong boses niya iba hindi ba. Puwede rin namang ibang—

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Puwedeng pakawala rin siya para guluhin.

SEC. PANELO: Hindi, hindi pakawala kundi kasama siya doon. He’s part of the… you know, pawn.

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Pero sir, wala naman siyang direktang koneksiyon doon sa mga taong sinabi ninyo na konektado doon sa ouster plot matrix; wala siyang koneksiyon doon eh. ‘Di ba parang tumayo lang siyang solo.

SEC. PANELO: Oo, pero noong lumabas iyon, ‘yun ay napunta—hindi ba iyong sa matrix.

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Iyong attention nga sir, parang na-divert.


ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Parang panggulo nga, panggulo.

SEC. PANELO: Hindi panggulo, kasi siya ang… siya ang parang naging source. Hindi ba nag—

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Hindi kasi kung sabi ninyo sir fake eh, hindi naman pala siya iyong Bikoy eh.

SEC. PANELO: Hindi. Fake in the sense na iyon ang pini-present niya. But puwede rin naman na silang dalawa nandoon habang bini-video iyon, ginamit—

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Pero kasi sir, sa matrix sinend ninyo wala siyang koneksiyon eh. Kasi sabi ninyo nga iba iyong pitch, iba iyong intonation, iba iyong accent ‘di ba.

SEC. PANELO: Correct. But what I’m saying is puwede rin namang silang dalawa nandoon. Kumbaga kaming dalawa, siya si… nagpapanggap na Bikoy, ako iyong tunay na Bikoy – nandoon kami pareho.

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: Saka sa matrix ninyo, wala namang lumalabas na may handler iyong Advincula eh.

SEC. PANELO: Hindi. Siguro kasama iyon sa kanilang setup para—iyon nga, tama ka doon. Magulo, o hindi naman pala si Bikoy ‘yan eh, iba naman pala.

ROSE NOVENARIO/HATAW: O ‘yun nga, iyon ang ibig kong sabihin.

SEC. PANELO: Oo, pero the fact is talagang all of them are part of the conspiracy.

REYMUND TINAZA/BOMBO RADYO: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Just to establish facts. So this conspiracy ultimately is to oust the President or just a mere black propaganda to discredit the Duterte administration?

SEC. PANELO: That’s one. The other one is to boost the candidacy of the Otso Diretso.

REYMUND TINAZA/BOMBO RADYO: And last point, sir. In your information or the information from the Office of the President, was there any established info of whether a military component or police component is already being active or associated to that conspiracy?

SEC. PANELO: Wala, hindi ko—walang binigay sa aking point na iyon. But considering na mayroong Magdalo na involved, o eh di hindi kataka-taka kung magkaroon sila.


VIC SOMINTAC/DZEC: Sir, just a follow up. Kasi ang sabi ninyo magkaiba iyong boses noong si Advincula at saka si Bong Banal, posibleng nandoon sila. Now the question is: who is the real Bikoy?

SEC. PANELO: O it doesn’t… palagay ko magiging irrelevant na iyon. The point of the matter is mayroong video na sinisiraan si Presidente at dalawa sila: iyong isa, siya ang nagsabing siya si Bikoy; iyong isa naman, he’s presenting himself to be. So most likely dalawa sila, magkasama sila doon.

What is important is: ano ba iyong video? Iyon ay paninira kay Presidente. Sino ba nagsi-circulate noon? O makikita natin sa diagram, mukhang sila-sila lahat na pinangalanan sa matrix ang kasa-kasama; kasama na iyong mga Partido Liberal at mga ‘Dilaw’ at iyong mga advocates nila.

VIC SOMINTAC/DZEC: Sir, follow up. Sabi ninyo grand conspiracy to discredit the Duterte administration o para ibagsak—

SEC. PANELO: And—teka muna, huwag mong kakalimutan – ‘and’ to boost the candidacies of the senatorial candidates of the opposition.

VIC SOMINTAC/DZEC: Okay. My point sir is, identified iyong mga personalities. Anong legal action ngayon na gagawin ng Malacañang?

SEC. PANELO: Eh tingnan natin. ‘Di ba sabi natin kung iyong ginagawa nila ay black propaganda, eh ibig sabihin libelous. So the moment the PNP and other law enforcement agencies have sufficient evidence strong enough, ipa-file na iyong kaso laban sa kanilang lahat.

HENRY URI/DZRH: Secretary, you mentioned Liberal Party. Sino sa Liberal Party ang utak ng lahat ng ito?

SEC. PANELO: Eh hindi natin alam kung sino ang utak. Basta iyong mga nandiyan, identified with the Liberal Party, iyong mga personalities.

HENRY URI/DZRH: Wala hong isang tao na nagko-command—

SEC. PANELO: Hindi natin alam iyon. Huwag ninyo na akong pilitin dahil I’m basing my responses to the diagram being presented to you that will determine—o that will, I think, need another investigation. Lalabas eventually ‘yan ‘pag nagkaroon ng ano na diyan, baka magturuan na sila.

HENRY URI/DZRH: Alright. Ano po ang pahayag o reaksiyon ng Presidente noong makita o mabasa niya ‘yan—

HENRY URI/DZRH: Ito na nga iyong reaksiyon niya eh, gusto niyang isa-publiko iyong tinanggap niyang impormasyon.

HENRY URI/DZRH: Alright. Galit siya?

SEC. PANELO: [Laughs] Hindi ko alam kung galit siya o natutuwa siya. What is important is: I have been instructed to present this and it’s coming from him.

HENRY URI/DZRH: Alright, thank you.

USEC. IGNACIO: Okay. A friendly reminder limit your follow up, may flight si Secretary.

SEC. PANELO: Kaming dalawa ni Martin Andanar ang in-instruct ni Presidente na i-present sa inyo.

GENALYN KABILING/MANILA BULLETIN: Good afternoon, sir. Sir, may we know where did the President get the information, the intelligence information?

SEC. PANELO: Eh, alam mo naman Presidente iyon, so many sources; you’ll have to ask him himself.


SEC. PANELO: That is why you’ll to ask him himself; kasi sabi niya pag may tanong sila tanungin ako.

GENALYN KABILING/MANILA BULLETIN: Sir, was the information verified, validated by the Palace?

SEC. PANELO: Knowing him as one who is a thinking President he would have validated every information he has received.

GENALYN KABILING/MANILA BULLETIN: sir, is it the same foreign source he got of earlier matrix?

SEC. PANELO: Hindi ko alam, wala siyang sinabi sa akin. Basta it was shared to him and he validated it and he wants the public to know about it.

ALVIN BALTAZAR/RADYO PILIPINAS: Secretary Panelo, Secretary Martin Andanar, good afternoon. So sir, after this revelation what would be Malacañang’s move; and as a lawyer, sir, what cases could possibly be charged against those who are involved in the conspiracy?

SEC. PANELO: We will let the Department of Justice since that is his turf, Secretary Menard, to do the job.

ALVIN BALTAZAR/RADYO PILIPINAS: So, what’s the next step on the part of the Palace?

SEC. PANELO: Eh di pag-aaralan nila Secretary Menard kung anong magandang demanda against them.

ALVIN BALTAZAR/RADYO PILIPINAS: Pero sa Palasyo, sir, anong next move natin?

SEC. PANELO: Iyon na iyon. Sino ba ang Secretary Guevarra, di part of the Palace, iyon na yun.

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: Sir, all these information, lahat ba ito na-discuss sa command conference, doon ba nanggaling itong matrix and other information from the President?

SEC. PANELO: How’s that?

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: Was it discussed during the command conference last night, sir, all of these?

SEC. PANELO: I was not there; were you there? We were not there.

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: Iyong diagram po ba, all the intelligence information—

SEC. PANELO: We were not there, so I don’t know. I have no personal knowledge.

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: Iyong intel information po ba, did it came from local sources? For example PNP?

SEC. PANELO: I already answered that. I said I don’t know.

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: Sir, meron bang specific directives si President to conduct an investigation and eventually file cases, may directive specific si President?

SEC. PANELO: Wala, wala siyang sinabi. Basta ang instruction sa amin ni Sec. Martin is to present this to the public.

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: And then bahala na po ang DOJ moto propio—

SEC. PANELO: Maybe you should wait for his speech this afternoon or tonight, because he will be touching on this, the same subject matter.

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: Sir, nabanggit ninyo another investigation will be put up again?

SEC. PANELO: Which one?

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: Nabanggit n’yo sir kanina.


JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: Another investigation?

SEC. PANELO: Hindi ang sabi ko bahala na sila Secretary Menard kung anong klaseng kaso ang ipa-file nila.

JOYCE BALANCIO/DZMM: So, as of this moment, sir, wala pang immediate filing of cases against these personalities?

SEC. PANELO: You can ask Secretary Menard, he is in-charge. I will beg to leave; I will give it to the John Lloyd of Malacañang to respond.

CELERINA MONTE/MANILA SHIMBUN: Sir, have you identified the personalities who financed these operations?

SEC. PANELO: Ah hindi natin alam kung sino ang nagpi-finance sa ngayon.

CELERINA MONTE/MANILA SHIMBUN: Sir, at this point in time, can we say that any alleged move to destabilize this administration has been stopped or quailed?

SEC. PANELO: Well, hopefully by revealing it to the public we are preempting their move. But we want to know—we want to let the public know: that their intention is not only to discredit this administration leading to its ouster and to boost the candidacies of the senatorial candidates. Thank you ladies and gentlemen.

ACE ROMERO/PHIL. STAR: Sec, you mentioned about the groups dishing out anti-Duterte sentiments or views and iyong spreading it sa social media. Paano natin ngayon ide-differentiate iyong legitimate dissent as against iyong mga plot to destabilize or to discredit the admin because protected by freedom of the speech iyong mga—

SEC. PANELO: The difference is that, iyong mga nabanggit ko, sila ang may linkages doon sa mga responsible for this black propaganda. So, ibig sabihin hindi na sila legit, sinamahan na nila ng kalokohan.

ACE ROMERO/PHIL. STAR: So ibig sabihin, hindi ito crackdown ng free speech—

SEC. PANELO: Definitely no. It can never be a crackdown. This government cannot crackdown on those who are practicing their freedom of expression and of speech, definitely.

LEI ALVIZ/GMA7: Sir, sino po iyong gumawa ng matrix at saka sino iyong nag-compare nung video recordings?

SEC. PANELO: Ah hindi ko alam, it was sent to me.


SEC. PANELO: By Atty. Jenny Ong of Malacañang Palace.

LEI ALVIZ/GMA7: Sir, who compared the audio recordings?

SEC. PANELO: What do you mean? Ah hindi ko alam iyan, basta prinesent lang sa amin, binigay lang.

CELERINA MONTE/MLA SHIMBUN: Sir good afternoon. You have mentioned na apparently there’s no sufficient evidence yet to pin down these people?

SEC. PANELO: Wala akong sinabing no sufficient evidence. I said Secretary Meynard should determine that.

CELERINA MONTE/MLA SHIMBUN: Pero off hand, do you see any sufficient evidence?

SEC. PANELO: I will not preempt Secretary Menard, he is lawyer himself.

CELERINA MONTE/MLA SHIMBUN: Kasi, sir. Parang lumalabas na propaganda war on both sides.

SEC. PANELO: No, it’s not propaganda, it’s propaganda of these people mentioned or shown in the diagram against this administration and to boost the candidacies of the Otso Diretso.

CELERINA MONTE/MLA SHIMBUN: So, the administration is not also engaged in that propaganda.

SEC. PANELO: Definitely. We are revealing the black propaganda against the administration. Thank you so much and good noon to everybody.


SOURCE: PCOO – NIB (News and Information Bureau)