Interview

Interview with Presidential Communications Operations Office Secretary Martin Andanar by Karen Davila (ANC – Headstart)

DAVILA: Secretary Martin, thank you for coming to the show.

SEC. ANDANAR: Thank you, Karen. Good morning. Good morning po sa lahat ng nanunood sa atin.

DAVILA: All right. Let me start first, we’ll discuss the President’s health later on. Are you ready, have you accepted that the PCOO will be dissolved?  

SEC. ANDANAR: I’m ready. As a matter of fact, Karen, that was my proposal in 2016. I had the draft executive order given to Executive Secretary Bingbong Medialdea, pero it was overtaken by events. And it’s just great that Senate President Tito Sotto opened the possibility or gave the suggestion.

DAVILA: But what would the difference be between, let’s say, dissolving the PCOO and putting an Office of the Press Secretary if you have the same people in it? In other words, does the function even change?

SEC. ANDANAR: Well, let’s go back to history. In ’86, it was created, the Office of the Press Secretary; by 1989, President Cory Aquino created the Executive Order establishing the Office of the Presidential Spokesperson. So tuluy-tuloy na iyan – mayroong Press Secretary, mayroon ding Spokesperson of the President.

By 2010, President Benigno Aquino maintained the Office of the Presidential Spokesperson but divided the Office of the Press Secretary into PCDSPO and PCOO. What I did, when I came in 2016, pinag-isa ko ang PCOO and PCDSPO. But right now, what is good about it, it’s a super hybrid office – the Office of the Press Secretary, because now it will be—whoever will be the Press Secretary will then manage the media outlets of government and at the same time be the Spokesperson.

DAVILA: Okay. Now, you are the head of PCOO, and it seems that Harry Roque has been offered the job as the Press Secretary, is that correct?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yes.

DAVILA: Has he taken it?

SEC. ANDANAR: Well, he said that he would think about it over the weekend. The reason why I’m willing to take the sacrifice is because we were trying to convince Harry not to run anymore by 2019 because we need him in the communications arm.

So one of the offers … I told Bong na I’m willing to take the sacrifice and give him the Office of the Press Secretary even my function para at least worth it naman for Harry.

DAVILA: Okay. Now, Secretary Martin, when you say—kasi you were interviewed on DZMM last weekend, and you said, “Ako naman ay handang magsakripisyo para lamang hindi tumakbo si Harry Roque.” Okay, forgive me for getting into detail, but are you saying this because you were fired or you know you’re about to be fired, or you won’t be offered the position of Press Secretary, or you haven’t heard from the President and you really took the initiative?

SEC. ANDANAR: I took the initiative to talk to Bong and ES Medialdea that I’m willing to … he should take this, the Office of the Press Secretary. As a matter of fact, I said that because I feel that I have already done 80% of the job.

DAVILA: So in other words, you’re letting go?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah.

DAVILA: Why are you deciding to let go? I mean, is the Senate a factor, the fact that the budget was threatened at one point? Is it a leadership issue?

SEC. ANDANAR: No, not really. We need Harry as the Spokesperson for the President, for the government. And in order for us to keep Harry as a Spokesperson, then we should offer him the Office of the Press Secretary since we are already dissolving the PCOO and reverting to the Office of the Press Secretary, plus the power of the Presidential Spokesperson – this will be one office. And if that happens, then it’s just practical that Harry heads the entire agency.

DAVILA: And what will you do? You’ve been so loyal to the President. I mean, you have been criticized by some sectors, but what will Martin Andanar do? Will you run for office?

SEC. ANDANAR: I will not run for office. It’s not in my plan this 2019. Perhaps—

DAVILA: Have you been offered another post?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yes, yes. But I will wait for the President to divulge the information. And you know, it’s difficult to say that I want this and I want that. We all work in the pleasure of the President so kung ano ang gusto ni Presidente then that’s where I—if I feel that the position that can be offered to me is a position that I can work on and I can be good at, then yeah, sure.

DAVILA: Okay. My sources tell me that you might be offered the position of political affairs. Have you heard of that?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yes, yes.

DAVILA: Okay. What would the function of a political affairs adviser be… like that one of Francis Tolentino, I’m presuming.

SEC. ANDANAR: Yes, yes. You know, I’ve been a fan of Francis and Gabby Claudio. I’ve been a fan of political advisers. And it’s essentially talking to the different politicians throughout country, the governors, the mayors, the congressmen, the senators; and creating that bridge that link between the Executive branch and the politicians.

DAVILA: So you have not been formally offered by the President but it’s gotten to you. Would you accept it if it was formally offered?

SEC. ANDANAR: Well, it’s a job that I think I can do.

DAVILA: It’s a job I think I can do, okay. What happens to everybody in PCOO? I mean, like Usec. Badoy for example and all the others. Kasi you have Asec. Mocha Uson, who’s resigned, but what happens to the whole team of PCOO?

SEC. ANDANAR: I’m not sure how Harry will manage the entire PCOO or the entire Office of the Press Secretary. He might be given leeway to recommend his own undersecretaries and assistant secretaries. So that’s a matter that Harry should discuss with the President.

DAVILA: But have you spoken to the team? Should they all give courtesy resignations?

SEC. ANDANAR: Not yet, not yet. We’re waiting for the President’s announcement.

DAVILA: I see. Okay. I’m curious in terms of timeline, it seems that you have accepted and you said you even suggested that it go back to the Office of the Press Secretary. When do you see the shift coming?  I mean, filing for candidacy is third week of October, so when is the shift going to happen?

SEC. ANDANAR: It should be between now and October 17. I’ve already given the draft executive order to Executive Secretary Bingbong Medialdea. He has the draft already from our office, and they’re studying it right now. And I believe that that’s the best timing between now and October 17.

Like what I said, we’ve prepared the PCOO, the government communications arm. The platform, it’s already there. And when Harry – if he does accept the job – he has a podium, he has a very nice soap box to stand on.

DAVILA: Okay. What if, you know, Secretary Harry could be watching now, what if he declines it? You never know. What if he declines it and says, “You know what, I’m going to take my chance at the Senate.” Will you accept that post as press secretary?

SEC. ANDANAR: We’ll wait for the President’s decision. [laughs]

DAVILA: Okay. But is it something you would want to do or you feel, been there, done that, I’d like to move on?

SEC. ANDANAR: When I came in, Karen, my assignment was to fix government communications. Radyo Pilipinas is now number seven in mega Manila; PTV 4 from number eight to number four. We have a perfect social media platform, very powerful, from 200,000 to about four million already. So I’ve done my part in building, I think, in building.

DAVILA: Okay. Let’s talk about the PCOO as an office, objectively. Under your term, the PCOO became very powerful, frankly. It had a budget of 1.3 billion, I think, 2018. And for the 2019 budget, you were asking—well, the agency, of course, was asking for a one hundred billion peso increase, right? So 1.4 billion.

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah. Well, let me just be clear: The 1.4 billion budget is a budget that’s spread in all more than eight agencies of PCOO. During the time of Secretary Coloma, it was about 1.3 billion. So the increase is, you know, just modest – 30 million, 40 million. So it’s not a huge stretch of increase that we’re looking at. Talagang by 10, 20, 30 million ang increase ng PCOO.

And the PCOO proper itself has a budget of P240 million a year. It hasn’t really increased much. But we have done our part to do whatever we can, with whatever resources that we have; and I think that the people at the PCOO are happy with this.

DAVILA: When I first interviewed you, I remember on Headstart, when you were first appointed to this post, you had big dreams. You had a vision and you were frankly idealistic on how you wanted to change the landscape, especially with the problems involving PTV 4 and Channel 13, and even putting the agencies together, making them all function better. What would you say—I mean, let’s talk about this, if I were to ask you what you could have done better? I mean, PCOO was… these were mistakes taken up in the budget hearing. I mean, everyone makes mistakes but kunwari, Norwegia instead of Norway; Rogelio instead of Roilo Golez; Winston instead of Sherwin Gatchalian. Okay, you know, and people were tough. I mean, DOLE which was—would you say that you could have done better with that? What went wrong there?

SEC. ANDANAR: I think with the set up of the organization, it was really—

DAVILA: Parang in all humility, why did that happen?

SEC. ANDANAR: It was a disaster that was really waiting to happen. We inherited a bureaucracy that wasn’t really so supported for the past decades. And what I did, my direction was to be more accessible to the public by opening the Philippine News Agency to social media. PNA had zero social media presence then. The website that we had during that time was a 2003 website. It was old, and we fixed it and it opened the flood gates. And we discovered that even prior to our administration, the Philippine News Agency had more than four to five hundred mistakes every year but people weren’t reading it. Ganoon iyon, Karen.

But now, if you go back to PNA, it’s done already. We fixed it. The same way with the Radyo Pilipinas, no one was listening to it; now it’s number 7. The FM 1, FM 2, 104.3 was nowhere in the surveys; now, it’s number one in affinity in Metro Manila.

DAVILA: In other words, you were saying, mistakes used to happen in the past but since it was irrelevant to the ordinary Filipino, nobody saw those mistakes.

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah. And, you know, I’ve been in the news room for more than 16 years, and it happens. We all make mistakes. Even ABS-CBN, you have misspelled names, mga  wrong spelling; ganoon din ang GMA. And even the best organization, like ABS-CBN, you pay your people well at ganoon pa rin ang nangyayari. No one is perfect.

DAVILA: Okay, all right, that’s one now. Mocha Uson who was the most visible and popular, in other words, a personality under the PCOO also thrived on controversy. I want to ask you two things: Number one, do you think you failed as a leader in handling her? Because a bulk of the Senate hearings in the past when it came to fake news, even the budget, Mocha Uson’s videos were always intertwined in them. Could you have handled her better?

SEC. ANDANAR: I think—well, in hindsight, I think Mocha was effective in what she was doing. In fact, she was able to direct opinion in the public and that’s—I mean, she’s very unique. She’s one assistant secretary that we’ve never had before in government, in its entirety.

DAVILA: But then you have Senator Koko Pimentel who said on this show, Mocha Uson single handedly is the reason why everybody turned cold on federalism; and that’s the President’s campaign promise. In other words, was she effective there?

SEC. ANDANAR: The President did mention that there were times that Mocha went overboard. But in totality, I think Mocha is a unique person. I think that she has her place in history already and in fact, whoever is running this coming 2019 will have a plus if that person will have Mocha on his or her side.

DAVILA: But then as a leader—there’s no question that Mocha is unique and clearly she is a person to reckon with in social media. My question is you, as a leader, do you feel that the PCOO turning into the Office of the Press Secretary, the Senate threatening not to pass the budget—you understand?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah, yeah.

DAVILA:  Do you feel that in hindsight, you could have done better or in handling someone like Mocha Uson? That’s the question. Is she one of the reasons why the PCOO, has frankly, its closing shop?

SEC. ANDANAR: Well, again, in 2016, that was one of my advocacies – to bring it back to the Office of the Press Secretary. And I think it’s just blessing in disguise that the Senate President Tito Sotto opened the topic. Assistant Secretary Mocha reports directly to me, directly to Secretary Bong and to the President. So in that sense—

DAVILA: So you’re not the only boss?

SEC. ANDANAR: I’m not the only boss. In that sense, I think she’s really unique. She has access to two Cabinet secretaries and the most powerful man in the Philippines.

DAVILA: What would you have done differently? I mean, PCOO at one point, Martin, I mean, you have two agencies under you, essentially with a big budget. But what would you have done differently? In a hindsight sense, I give it a week and you’ll probably, who knows, you might say goodbye. What would you have done differently?

SEC. ANDANAR:  Since this is my first foray in government, there are specific administrative ways that I would have done this differently. And of course, two years of being here, I’ve already learned it first hand on how to, for example, assign this person to that position; how to make the most out of a plantilla position, I think in that case.

And also, you know, the problem, Karen, is dealing with bureaucracy is that some offices already have a way of thinking. This is the way it is; the PCOO should only have 1.4, 1.3 billion budget; that the DBM should not put some more capital expenditure to PCOO. I think there is a problem with improving government media infrastructure in terms of budget. It’s not given the right budget to improve – PTV, Radyo Pilipinas. And you can’t blame the bureaucracy, sa sobrang tagal na kasi na nami-mismanage itong …

DAVILA: Oo, that’s one. But I want to ask you, do you feel you signed the documents on essentially granting—I can’t remember the exact figure now, but millions of advertising funds to Kilos Pronto, the show that was …  a Ben Tulfo show who is the brother of Wanda Teo. And for that alone, let’s face it, Wanda Teo was replaced. I’ve wanted to ask you, clarify: What was your role in that whole situation?

SEC. ANDANAR: Great question, great question. I’ve always believed that the government-owned and controlled corporation – like PTV, they have their own charter – that they should have their own independence. And for that reason that I gave full 100% leeway, freedom to PTV to manage their own business. At iyon naman ang sinasabi ng GCG that although it’s an attached agency, they have their own charter; the secretary can’t even sign anything. I did not sign anything in that document—

DAVILA: With advertising?

SEC. ANDANAR: With advertising.

DAVILA: You’re saying, you did not choose the Ben Tulfo show?

SEC. ANDANAR: No, no.

DAVILA: You did not.

SEC. ANDANAR: No. It’s a solely PTV decision. It’s a corporate decision of PTV to do that. But it went that way so …

DAVILA: Did PTV 4 do the right decision in funding a show that was a block timer? I mean, I can imagine the logic of you want the funds to go to PTV 4. I see that because it is a lot of money. But would you want—I mean, in other words, was it right that it went to a block timer, anyway it could have gone to a PTV 4 produced show?

SEC. ANDANAR: I would love to comment on that. But, I believe that the case in the Ombudsman’s desk now, so I don’t really want to say my own opinion because it might influence.

DAVILA: Do you feel that this controversy was a factor in Senator’s, in other words, losing a bit of trust with the PCOO and your office? Do you feel that was a factor, this factored in?

SEC. ANDANAR: I don’t know what the senators are thinking. But there are reasons—I believe that the main reason that we would want—if you ask me, the reason why I want to revert it to the Office of the Press Secretary is that apart from the reorganization, there are some functions of the Office of the Press Secretary that were slowly lost along the way.

DAVILA: Like what functions?

SEC. ANDANAR: At the office of the press attaché.

DAVILA: Which is international or local?

SEC. ANDANAR: International. And we are always blamed for not answering the critics overseas, in Europe, in America, in UK, in the Middle East.

DAVILA: But were you equipped for that? I mean, did you have the right people for that?

SEC. ANDANAR: No, weren’t equipped. We don’t have any press attaché. For example, the United States, they have a press attaché here.

DAVILA: That’s permanently here.

SEC. ANDANAR: Permanently here. I believe that we should have a press attaché in the UK, one in Europe, one in the United States, one in the Middle East.

DAVILA: And not just embassy staff, you mean?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah, not just embassy. I’ve asked the embassies overseas, in different missions, and they are all in one in saying that they lack the staff also so it’s difficult for them to handle communications for the government. And I believe that the Office of the Press Secretary should be able to bring this position back on the table.

DAVILA: Okay, that’s interesting. So what you are saying is, if you have a press secretary, he can revive the press attachés. But why couldn’t you have done it? Why does it have to be him?

SEC. ANDANAR:  I tried it, but I went through a bureaucratic hurdle and the budget. And now that it’s back in the limelight, Senate President Tito Sotto, Senator Lacson and Senator Gringo Honasan and you have the President himself agreeing to the idea, then I think it’s a perfect time to approve it.

DAVILA: Okay, that’s one. Is there anything else that would change dramatically if the OPS were revived?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah. Although baka sabihin ng iba ay mababaw lang, but when you go overseas, when you travel and then you introduce yourself as a bureaucrat and you say, ‘I’m from the PCOO?’ What’s PCOO? ‘The Presidential Communications,’ Oh, okay so how’s the satellite in your country? How’s the internet connection?

Honestly, the Office of the Press Secretary is better known all over the world and it’s easier to introduce yourself, that’s the first. Number two is that, if you have the Office of the Press Secretary and the Office of the Presidential Spokesperson as one, then it’s easier for him to manage the communications arm of government. And at the same time, well, the podium that he is standing, the lectern that he has or the soap box that he stands on, it will be easier for him to manage that, at the same, disseminate the words of the President.

DAVILA: Okay. Now, Mocha said, she sacrificed herself so to speak, when she resigned during the budget hearing because the budget was being dangled ‘no, that it might not have been passed. Do you believe that there was a real threat not to pass the PCOO budget? Was the threat real?

SEC. ANDANAR: We went back to the plenary in Congress thrice. And when Mocha resigned during the Senate budget hearing and we proceeded to Congress an hour after that, the budget was passed in two minutes.

DAVILA: So you’re saying the threat was real? She was the reason?

SEC. ANDANAR: It’s directly proportionate to the budget I suppose, because it happened.  She resigned and we went back to Congress, two minutes it was passed.

DAVILA: What would you consider as your biggest achievement as PCOO head?

SEC. ANDANAR: I think reviving the government media. I said, PTV—

DAVILA: Making it relevant.

SEC. ANDANAR: PTV is number 4. It has now 55,000 watts. It’s going 120,000 watts.

DAVILA: That’s a logistical issue.

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah, I think that’s where my strength is, the infra. We’re building Mindanao Media Hub, it should be done by December; Radyo Pilipinas is already back in the top ten, it’s number 7; FM 2 104.3 is already number one in affinity; FM1 87.5 is already top 9 in the radio surveys.

DAVILA: Is that right?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yes, yes. If you try to listen to it, then you’re listening like a private radio station not a government radio station—

DAVILA: Were you able to fix the Channel 13 problem? I know that you had wanted to.

SEC. ANDANAR:  Yes, it is only this administration that we were able to forward IBC 13 to the President, and it was signed for privatization. It never happened in the past—

DAVILA: Okay, can we discuss that because you do have a lot of employees of Channel 13. I mean, at least we have hard facts here. The President signed Channel 13 for privatization, what will that mean? What is the timetable?

SEC. ANDANAR: So we set up a technical working group to discuss the privatization of Channel 13. But unfortunately, we were able to discover so many bad things about IBC—

DAVILA: Practices.

SEC. ANDANAR: Practices and even things that made it impossible to—well, close to impossible to sell. But I leave that to the next press secretary who will come in because talagang malaki ang problema ng IBC 13. I’d love to mention it here but—

DAVILA: Yeah, but does this mean that—what does it mean in terms of salaries and pay… those who’ve been asking for back pay?

SEC. ANDANAR: Well, if it doesn’t get privatized this year, then the president of IBC 13 should be prepared to continue operations as a government network. But if you were to ask me, by hook or by crook, it should be privatized this year.

DAVILA: Okay, by hook or by crook. And the franchise of IBC 13 is still when?

SEC. ANDANAR: It only has less than 10 years, less than 10 years. But you know, it’s easy to get a franchise approved. Well, not that easy because you’ll talk to all of the congressmen.

But what I am saying is that, we should be able to hurdle all of the legal problems of IBC 13. But it’s possible—

DAVILA: Have you infused more money? Because right now, it’s government. Is there more money in IBC 13 or no?

SEC. ANDANAR: No, we have not infused any money.

DAVILA: And you cannot make 13 and PTV 4 one network?

SEC. ANDANAR: It’s possible. It’s possible, but it depends on Congress. Because IBC 13 is a different franchise from PTV so it’s a different case altogether.

DAVILA: Okay, so you mentioned things you‘ve done. What else? Of course, relevance of all government …

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah, social media, we’ve strengthened government social media. I think now we have almost four million likers or followers for our Facebook accounts for the different government agencies. And when we broadcast, we broadcast on all of those accounts so it makes it easier for government to communicate to the people.

DAVILA: I was going to ask you, PCOO at one point was criticized that instead of actually focusing on bringing out the President’s programs, it became a tool to divide the people. You know, that was, in fact, one of the editorials I read that it was aggressive over … I mean, it was aggressive against its critics, against media personalities. Do you believe that to be true?

SEC. ANDANAR: No, I don’t believe in that.

DAVILA: Is hubris now?

SEC. ANDANAR: No, I don’t think so. My job, I really focus on building the network, building the platforms, building TV, radio, social media. That’s why now, when the President speaks, it’s not only on television, it’s not only on radio; he is also on social media, live every time.

DAVILA: Oo, Facebook.

SEC. ANDANAR: Facebook. So that’s where I focused and that’s where the President assigned me to do and he wanted me to do that, and I did that.

DAVILA: Now, speaking of the President, okay. Speaking of the President, there seems to be some confusion, at least in government of where he really was. It’s a bit troubling reading, seeing photos that he was in Hong Kong, and then we have Harry Roque saying he was in Davao. You know, it makes it come out that there is a miscom among yourselves. Did you know he was going to Hong Kong?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah, I knew he was going to Hong Kong. I heard about that.

DAVILA: Why did he go?

SEC. ANDANAR: But I didn’t ask why. All knew was that it was a private time. And I really believe, Karen, that he deserves private time. He has to stop and smell the flowers too.

DAVILA: And spend time with the family, you mean.

SEC. ANDANAR: Family is number one. If there’s anything about that, it’s the President showing his love for his family. And he’s worked so hard, I think he deserved it.

DAVILA: Okay. The President’s health, I think the Palace did admit that, am I correct, a growth was found?

SEC. ANDANAR: It was the President himself who said that, Karen.

DAVILA: Okay, go ahead. Can we discuss this? Does he discuss it with you guys? Is he transparent?

SEC. ANDANAR: I can only tell you what I see. And what I see is also what you see. And my only advantage is that I can be close to where he is. And I don’t see any changes in the President – he is still healthy.

DAVILA: So what is the medical diagnosis? There was a growth …

SEC. ANDANAR: I haven’t seen it.

DAVILA: No, I mean, did he say it?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah, he said that that he was going to have another check up, another test. And I’m sure the President is quite transparent to announce whatever it is that the second test if the result is positive or negative.

DAVILA: But do you agree that if it is a serious illness, he is mandated and obligated to disclose it to the public?  Where do you stand with that?

SEC. ANDANAR: It’s really in the Constitution – we need to know the health of our President.  And nobody is saying that it shouldn’t be.

DAVILA: Well, nobody knows if it is serious. But you don’t know what it is either?

SEC. ANDANAR: Yes, we will find out only from the President once he announces it.

DAVILA: Okay. But in terms of, let’s say, put it to function, how would you describe him? You have critics, and I’m sorry to say this, who comment on the color of his skin, speculating that he could be sick in this way.

SEC. ANDANAR: Well, you’ll always have critics. That’s the thing these days, we have so many television sets; we have so many screens—

DAVILA: And there are so many experts.

SEC. ANDANAR: So many experts. The TV is now on HT.

DAVILA: HT.

SEC. ANDANAR: HT, parang mas mataas pa ito sa HD ngayon eh. Yeah, I mean, there’s always be critics and you’ll just have to live with it.

DAVILA: But you are assuring, I think, the public; that’s what is important – he’s healthy.

SEC. ANDANAR: He’s up and about. We have a Cabinet meeting tonight.

DAVILA: Okay. Is he back?

SEC. ANDANAR: I’m not sure if he’s back but we have a Cabinet meeting at 4 o’clock. And I’m sure it’s going to end late.

DAVILA: And all Cabinet meetings, the President is present?

SEC. ANDANAR: Always present.

DAVILA: Okay. And what will be tackled in the Cabinet meeting later?

SEC. ANDANAR: I don’t have a copy of the agenda. But I’ll ask the President about the health later.

DAVILA: You will. If he’ll make another announcement.

SEC. ANDANAR: I’ll ask him. For you, I’ll ask him.

DAVILA: But did he go to Hong Kong for a checkup?

SEC. ANDANAR: He went there to spend time for his family. And I saw the photos also, he went shopping. He went shopping for yellow clothes. So that’s the only thing I know.

DAVILA: Okay, all right. Talking about you, moving on to you as we have a few minutes to the show. Is running for public office an option for you? I mean, you are the in-law of… is that fair to say, somehow of Senator Cynthia Villar. So you do have some exposure to elected office. Is running for office, Congress or any other posts, an option? A local post?

SEC. ANDANAR: Karen, I feel that I am more effective as a technocrat. I’ve never really concerned myself as a politician even when I joined this position. I just enjoy being in the background, so I don’t see myself running next year.

DAVILA: You don’t. Or running at all?

SEC. ANDANAR: It depends. If it becomes a federal government, then I’ll consider – in the province.

DAVILA: If it becomes federal.

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah.

DAVILA: But in this present system, no?

SEC. ANDANAR: No. I feel that I’ll be more effective as a politicians or as a campaigners if it becomes a federal government, if I’m make a politician because I’m better versed in Bisaya than Tagalog and English.

DAVILA: So when you leave PCOO, is it right to say you are not going back to the private sector just yet? What happens if the President has nothing to offer you?

SEC. ANDANAR: I could work for ABS-CBN. [laughs]

DAVILA: Would you want to stay in government?

SEC. ANDANAR: I’ll take a break.

DAVILA: You want to take a break, if not.

SEC. ANDANAR: Yeah.

DAVILA: Last question. How would you grade your performance, ten being the highest, as PCOO Chief? Okay, think about that. How would you grade yourself and why?

SEC. ANDANAR: I don’t want to grade myself.

DAVILA: Passing or failing or average? Ano?

SEC. ANDANAR: Well, in terms of building infrastructure, I think I passed. And that was the assignment of the President and … I think focused myself well in building the infrastructure of government media.

DAVILA: Okay, all right. Thank you, Secretary Martin Andanar. So you’ll be announcing in the next few days? We’ll be hearing about details.

SEC. ANDANAR: The President will.

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SOURCE: PCOO – NIB (News and Information Bureau)

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